Showing posts with label Owner Occupied. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Owner Occupied. Show all posts

Sunday, August 13, 2017

Retirement Accommodation but at what cost?

Retirement Accommodation – Would you pay the $ amounts being asked by the industry not for ownership but simply conditional occupancy of residential accommodation in a Retirement Village?


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  • What is the cost of moving into this Retirement Village?

  • The in-going amount in his village is $850,000.00. Commensurate with those in the freehold development next door where you would obtain ownership but here you get a lifestyle in addition to the conditional right to occupy.

  • I don’t actually get ownership for $850,000.00, all I get is a conditional right to occupy?

  • Correct.




  • Is there a Deferred Management Fee and what is the amount?

  • Yes, the Deferred Management Fee payable to this operator is 35% or $297,500.00 of that in-going price of $850,000.00.

  • I don’t get all my money back when I leave the property even though I don't have ownership only a conditional right to occupy?

  • Correct.




  • Why do I lose 35% of my in-going amount if I don't have ownership?

  • That 35% or $297,500.00 amount helps pay for the $2.5m communal recreational facilities and helps the operator make a profit so they can continue to provide this type of accommodation which is well liked by both State and Federal Governments.

  • You want me to believe that the developer has made no profit over development costs at the $850,000.00 per unit price point. 

  • You have over 100 units here so that $297,500.00 taken per unit totals $29.7m for a once only communal and recreation facility cost of $2.5M.

  • Retirement village units turnover around every 7 years or so, you will get at least $29.7m now at the start of the village and then again around every 7 years over the entire life of the village for a once only communal and recreation facility cost of $2.5M.

  • Correct.




  • When do I get the 65% or $552,500.00 of that total in-going payment refunded?

  • On your departure from the village after say 5, 10, 15 years of occupancy. 

  • But inflation will have decimated the present day value of my money by that time, I will struggle to have enough capital value to return to the property market or afford a nursing home placement.

  • This has the capacity to put me into what many describe as the retirement village financial or poverty trap where the present day value of that 65% of the in-going amount refundable to me on departure is decimated in by inflation, rising housing costs and rising nursing home entry costs.

  • Correct.




  • What happens to my 65% or $552,500.00 of that in-going payment while I reside in the village?

  • The operator can use that 65% or $552,500.00 of that in-going payment interest free for their working capital needs or to repay their commercial borrowings or simply to invest for a profit until repayment to you on your exit.

  • You have over 100 units here, that would generate an interest free cash pool of over $55.0m million dollars increasing over time as each unit increases in price.

  • Correct.




  • I paid an in-going amount commensurate with a purchase price do I get any capital gain?

  • No, under this particular occupancy contract 100% of the capital gain goes to the operator.




  • Are there any other costs associated with this conditional occupancy agreement?

  • Yes, you pay all the maintenance costs of the unit.

  • Yes, you pay any selling costs of the unit on your departure.

  • Yes, you pay an administration fee on your departure.

  • Yes, you pay the full refurbishment cost of the unit on your departure, around $60,000.00 at present day values.

  • Yes, you and your fellow residents pay all the maintenance costs associated with the common areas and the recreational facilities.

  • But I don't get ownership of the property only conditional occupancy!

  • Correct.



What do you think now, would you pay the $ amounts being asked by the industry not for ownership of a unit but simply the conditional right to occupy a unit in a Retirement Village?



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Saturday, August 5, 2017

Retirement Options

Retirement options for older Australians can be varied and sometimes complex. The table below shows a comparison between two popular options among retirees, a retirement village unit or for example a unit on the Gold Coast. The point made in the table is the dramatic negative impact a retirement village will have on the life savings of the retiree over time as compared to say a Gold Coast unit or unit ownership anywhere. In Option B the retiree continues to move forward in terms of a capital base whereas in Option A the retiree suffers an ever decreasing capital base.

Of course in the end a retiree is free to choose an option that suits their personal circumstances best.

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Tuesday, May 2, 2017

Criticism of Retirement Village Transition from Owner Occupied to Leashold

At the Retirement Housing Forum held in Melbourne on Monday May 1st residents from AVEO villages expressed deep dissatisfaction with the process taking place in their villages. There is a push within the retirement industry for village owner/operators to convert villages where the units are individually owned and occupied by the village residents to where the units are simply leased as this gives total ownership and control over the village to the owner/operator. Conveners of the Retirement Housing Forum Housing for the Aged Action Group, Residents of Retirement Villages Victoria, Council of the Ageing and Consume Action Law Centre had to establish a special session such was the number and the feeling among the residents affected by this process, calls were made by residents for immediate consumer protection actions to address their concerns.

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